Sounding more and more post-colonial each day Rob. I think I may be converting you! lolz.

This is the same as what “Farrakahn” is doing. You’re making up a distinction between the two because you have already decided that the two are different.

And my point is that I did not have a poor choice of words.

Concerning Cosby, I never said his comments excused certain churches and particular Christians circles for remaining racially segregated. But there are many more layers to it then a call to unity. There are geographical and socio-economic considerations that need to be accounted for.

To criticize is not really to speak against. Cosby is criticizing because he wants to see improvement in an area that may or may not be lacking in the African-American community. Speaking against would be like Farrakahn, my early example, speaking against the USA simply because it was founded by white men for the sake of spreading his angry feelings.

At any rate, Rob, the point is that Bill Cosby’s comments do not just excuse certain churches and particular Christian circles for remaining racially segregated. That is all.

Truth and Peace,
Rod

You are right. Cosby just criticized the black community but he did not really “speak out against them”; just a poor choice of words on Rob’s part.

thanks for the help. one day i might actually be an informed person. strike that – no is truly informed, i guess i should jump in & pretend to be just b/c everyone else is.

thanks for your time

I took it from Polycarp’s blog….The epistle to Diognetus…

For the Christians are distinguished from other men neither by country, nor language, nor the customs which they observe. For they neither inhabit cities of their own, nor employ a peculiar form of speech, nor lead a life which is marked out by any singularity. The course of conduct which they follow has not been devised by any speculation or deliberation of inquisitive men; nor do they, like some, proclaim themselves the advocates of any merely human doctrines. But, inhabiting Greek as well as barbarian cities, according as the lot of each of them has determined, and following the customs of the natives in respect to clothing, food, and the rest of their ordinary conduct, they display to us their wonderful and confessedly striking 281 Literally, “paradoxicalmethod of life. They dwell in their own countries, but simply as sojourners. As citizens, they share in all things with others, and yet endure all things as if foreigners. Every foreign land is to them as their native country, and every land of their birth as a land of strangers. They marry, as do all [others]; they beget children; but they do not cast away fetuses. They have a common table, but not a common bed.They are in the flesh, but they do not live after the flesh. They pass their days on earth, but they are citizens of heaven.They obey the prescribed laws, and at the same time surpass the laws by their lives. They love all men, and are persecuted by all. They are unknown and condemned; they are put to death, and restored to life. They are poor, yet make many rich; they are in lack of all things, and yet abound in all; they are dishonoured, and yet in their very dishonour are glorified. They are evil spoken of, and yet are justified; they are reviled, and bless; they are insulted, and repay the insult with honour; they do good, yet are punished as evil-doers. When punished, they rejoice as if quickened into life; they are assailed by the Jews as foreigners, and are persecuted by the Greeks; yet those who hate them are unable to assign any reason for their hatred.

That is an excellent question. I believe that the class’s response was probably one of confusion. Perhaps you did not explain what you meant, but in any case, race is a volatile issue at Brite. As Dr. Feille says, no one has arrived.

There is nothing wrong with using the term “Black” to describe African-Americans (I prefer black). Maybe you should have given the context a bit more, like the population of Arkansas and its culture; otherwise, people will just depend on their stereotypes to inform them of their own opinions. That is probably the reason for the class’s judgmental attitude.

I hope that helps.

Truth and Peace,
Rod

this was a fun post to read. definitely food for thought.

here’s a question for you – how appropriate is the label “black?” in one of my classes i mentioned that my brother plays guitar in several bands in little rock. someone asked about that, so in the process of explaining, i reached the point where i said, “yeah, he also plays in a blues band. he’s actually the only white guy in the band. yeah, a 21-year-old white guy playing with a group of older black guys.” anywho, when i said that, the room became eerily quiet & i felt like i offended everyone in the room. i thought, “okaaaay . . .”

so, in your opinion, what was that about? aside from the euro construct stuff, is there a local negative connotation with the word “black?” i just haven’t lived anywhere where the word “black” was offensive (though i’ve definitely seen racism in some ugly forms)

just curious what your thoughts are

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I have often wondered why such a misogynistic and racist thing like the theory of evolution has continued on today as it has. Giving the rise in liberalism—even the good sides of it such as women’s rights and desegregation laws—-how can these same people also push for something as opposite to their cause as that of theory of evolution? Science is not isolated. Ideas have effects. Social Darwinism is only the logical outcome of the science.